Exodus 22:16-17: "pre-marital sex" = the beginning of marriage?

[MemeFan]

What part of "He does not bear the sword in vain" do you have trouble comprehending?

I don't think like that.

The testimonies of those who find themselves on death row.

Did they also got change of hearth or some didn't?

Maybe there should be better way to motivate someone to salvation.

Usually mass murderers are successful at ending their own lives before they are even arrested.

I have included not only Hitler/Fauci types, but also "I'm too careless to properly care about safety" guy working at FDI who causes lots of unnecesary death.

Do the research then. It was because of liberal activist judges, that he was able to eventually get set free and he did kill others!

He is irrevelant for topic.

10 out of 10 people die.

And it will happen one day, unless the Lord returns and I am caught up together with those who have died in Christ and meet them in the air.

Indeed, as sinners we come to Christ as the song says, "just as I am".


Not true at all. There is a difference between premature death someone has inflicted on others, and death caused by our decaying bodies, that will occur eventually, unless we are part of the generation who is still faithful to Christ when He returns.

There is a huge difference between execution and death that will one day occur as a result of the sins that we have done. Understand that the passage you pulled that from "the wages of sin is death" is part of a chapter that starts off with the question "Should we continue in sin in order for grace to abound?" Paul was laying out the reason for why we who are now dead to sin should NOT live any longer therein!

Oh, I see it. There was slight misunderstanding. I didn't mean natural death. I mean why Lord doesn't execute you directly after you sin?

If death is natural consequence of sin, then why delay punishment? Any delay would only give you more time to collect sins, therefore you would be even more deserving of death which means there is even less reason to delay punishment.

Only reason for delay is chance for mercy which is asking for special treatment of not applying Lord's law which you can't do since it's going against estopel.

And you can't throw away estopel since without estopel there is no rule of law. There are special favourable rules for special people.

And Lord can't break estopel, otherwise He isn't fair and just. Justice is getting exactly what you deserved. Everyone who does crime A gets exactly punishment for crime A. No less, no more, not something else. EXACTLY.
Also, we can't assume that death has entered into universe because some couple Adam and Eve did ate apple.

Reasons:

1)2nd law of thermodynamics.

Everything thought time loses it's structure. So universe will die and human body would die anyway thanks to 2nd law. It's only matter of time before body repair system would stop working which means body will start to get old. So even without apple humans would die thanks to heat death of universe.

2) Lord said "Now you will surely die". Death is now certain, but it doesn't forbid death before eating apple.

Following sentence is also valid. "Before you could die, but now will certainly die". Lord could say this sentence, but He decided to use less words, so we can't throw away possibility of death.

3) No significant changes of nature

I don't think that after eating apple natural laws did change. Bible says nothing, so it's possibility. Which implies that universe during "Garden times" worked exactly as our own now.

4) What did animals eat? They do need energy source. So what is energy source?

Since only plants (I include algae here) can produce their own energy and animals aren't plants, well animals did eat some energy source.

Death for plants proves existence of death.

5) Human's energy source

What did Adam and Eve eat? What did die in order to provide humans with energy?

6)Paradise

A place of bliss and content which could be only be result of Lord's presence which implies natural world wasn't blissfull and therefore potencially dangerous.
What happened to Adam if he had fallen of cliff?


At best for you, Lord did remove His anti-death protection for humans after eating apple.


And for last, rest of Romans 6 isn't doing you much favour.

Let's consider verse 14:

For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace

Verse can be rewritten keeping same meaning:

For sin is your master, because you are under law, and not under grace.

Logically, I have every NotA replaced with A and opposite.

So invoking law puts you automatically under sin which results in death which is exactly I don't want to be judged by Lord's law.

 

[MemeFan]

They bore false witness against him. It was an in-justice. That’s why in the Father’s instructions there is a severe penalty for bearing false witness:

Deut 19:16-21
16 If a false witness rises against any man to testify against him of wrongdoing, 17 both the men between whom is the controversy shall stand before the face of YHWH, before the priests and the judges who serve in those days. 18 And the judges shall make inquiry thoroughly, and behold, if the witness is a false witness—he has testified a falsehood against his brother— 19 then you⁺ shall do to him as he thought to have done to his brother, and you shall put away the evil from among you. 20 And those who remain shall hear and fear, and they shall add not to do this evil thing anymore among you. 21 And your eye shall not pity: Life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

I don't mean to apply penalty of law.

I mean it's OK to treat convict with disrespect? What is spitting on face, but disrespect?

And what is torture, but applied sadism?

Law doesn't have spitting and torture as punishments.